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~Your visionz of Bangladeshi music scene in the Future~

  
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Exp0nEnT
 
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 12:25 pm
 
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expo bhai... futurey apnarey stage ey dekhtey chai. and thas the bottom line smile


lol you'll never know, bura bandor gache o chorte parey abar razz

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Music jodi keu pran theke kore ta shadharonoto bhalo hoy. er mane ei na tar classical background thaktei hobe. amader deshe Lalon kintu classical artist chhilo na.
Amader deshey ekta dhara hochchey jara pure classical trainning neya tader beshir vag e srishtishil noy. Dont disgust me. This is the truth. tara notun kichhu korar chinta koren na. ek e purano jinish chorcha korte thaken. amar dharona, er mul karon amader classical shikhanor dhoron. shei shikkha bebostay creation er dike kauke udbuddo kora hoy na. shudhui chorchay udbuddo kora hoy. ei dhara ta jodi paltano jeto tobe amra western genre er pashapashi aro onek deshi dhacher valo gan petam ja amader notun ebong puraton shob projonmokei shoman vabe akrishto korto.

Amar shopno amder desher musicianra ekta notun genre creat korbe ja shara prithibite amader genre hishabe porichiti pabe. onnora ta follow korbe.


i couldnt agree with a few points. first of, u said "classical training neya tader beshir bhag-e shrishtishil noy." excuse me? so u r saying i have the ability to read and analyze Shakespeare, so i cant write poetry on my own??!!! heard Ornob? hello? classical holo shekor. shastriyo shogeet shikhlam, aar ami creatively impaired hoye gelam, why such a hasty generalization, brother? shikhe gaan korar (singing, composing whatever it is) je ki poriman advantage ache aar ki prochondo rokom difference quality'r moddhe, ta khubi visible when you listen to Ornob and some other composers. Kontho emon ekta jinish, tar joto chorcha hoy, tar awaj aro bhalo hoy, aro versatile hoy. Not everybody becomes bassbaba.

Classical na, borong kichu genra ache ja demand kore particular gayoki ebong kontho. Jemon, robindro shongeet ebong lalon-geeti. Tar mane ei na je jara robindro shongeet ba lalon geeti shikhche, ba gaan korche, tader srishti shilota noshto kore deya hoyeche. Amar to mone hoy, ulta. Borong robindro shongeet er je abedon, ta aajkal kar present music ey pawai jay na. Same goes for Lalon. Jara eshob gaan koren, tader kache gaaner ortho alada. Aar ei jonnei tara ami-tumi-chad-tara-shurjo-bhalobasha type gaan likhen na, koren na. tara gaaner bepare shikkhito, ebong onno culture ey khub beshi ekta influenced na. aar apni je bollen, tader shudhu chorchay udbuddho kora hoy, creation ey na... ami etao mante parlam na. Shanti Niketon ey shuru hoy chorchay, shesh hoy chorchay. kintu from the begining to end you have to study music, read music, eat music, sleep music. Creativity'r ei chorcha-e manush ke creative kore. Watching MTV or attending 2 classes in a week to somebody's garage might not do as much. so rather than saying, "ei dhara ta jodi paltano jeto" amader bola uchit "proti bochor je dozen dozen band ber hoy, tader vocalist gula jodi at least gaan shikhe ashto...!!"

and finally, "Amar shopno amder desher musicianra ekta notun genre creat korbe ja shara prithibite amader genre hishabe porichiti pabe. onnora ta follow korbe.".... umm, what happened to LALON GEETI???? hello? Or Nazrul Geeti?? Or Rabindro Shongeet?? Have we already forgottean about these genras of our music???? baki ja ache, shobi to fusion chara aar kichui na!!!


really, im totally confused about what exactly you tried to say in your post.

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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 2:45 am
 
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mp thx.. i cudnt say it any better..(hats off)

ono genres bhalo... but classic bhuley kemney,.. ami at least bhulbo nah,

and ark bhai its ok..ami just moja korchilam. ek futa o offended hoy nai ami.

tc. smile

exp bhai just do it razz

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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 9:08 am
 
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uch wrote:
Music jodi keu pran theke kore ta shadharonoto bhalo hoy. er mane ei na tar classical background thaktei hobe. amader deshe Lalon kintu classical artist chhilo na.
Amader deshey ekta dhara hochchey jara pure classical trainning neya tader beshir vag e srishtishil noy. Dont disgust me. This is the truth. tara notun kichhu korar chinta koren na. ek e purano jinish chorcha korte thaken. amar dharona, er mul karon amader classical shikhanor dhoron. shei shikkha bebostay creation er dike kauke udbuddo kora hoy na. shudhui chorchay udbuddo kora hoy. ei dhara ta jodi paltano jeto tobe amra western genre er pashapashi aro onek deshi dhacher valo gan petam ja amader notun ebong puraton shob projonmokei shoman vabe akrishto korto.

Amar shopno amder desher musicianra ekta notun genre creat korbe ja shara prithibite amader genre hishabe porichiti pabe. onnora ta follow korbe.


i couldnt agree with a few points. first of, u said "classical training neya tader beshir bhag-e shrishtishil noy." excuse me? so u r saying i have the ability to read and analyze Shakespeare, so i cant write poetry on my own??!!! heard Ornob? hello? classical holo shekor. shastriyo shogeet shikhlam, aar ami creatively impaired hoye gelam, why such a hasty generalization, brother? shikhe gaan korar (singing, composing whatever it is) je ki poriman advantage ache aar ki prochondo rokom difference quality'r moddhe, ta khubi visible when you listen to Ornob and some other composers. Kontho emon ekta jinish, tar joto chorcha hoy, tar awaj aro bhalo hoy, aro versatile hoy. Not everybody becomes bassbaba.

Classical na, borong kichu genra ache ja demand kore particular gayoki ebong kontho. Jemon, robindro shongeet ebong lalon-geeti. Tar mane ei na je jara robindro shongeet ba lalon geeti shikhche, ba gaan korche, tader srishti shilota noshto kore deya hoyeche. Amar to mone hoy, ulta. Borong robindro shongeet er je abedon, ta aajkal kar present music ey pawai jay na. Same goes for Lalon. Jara eshob gaan koren, tader kache gaaner ortho alada. Aar ei jonnei tara ami-tumi-chad-tara-shurjo-bhalobasha type gaan likhen na, koren na. tara gaaner bepare shikkhito, ebong onno culture ey khub beshi ekta influenced na. aar apni je bollen, tader shudhu chorchay udbuddho kora hoy, creation ey na... ami etao mante parlam na. Shanti Niketon ey shuru hoy chorchay, shesh hoy chorchay. kintu from the begining to end you have to study music, read music, eat music, sleep music. Creativity'r ei chorcha-e manush ke creative kore. Watching MTV or attending 2 classes in a week to somebody's garage might not do as much. so rather than saying, "ei dhara ta jodi paltano jeto" amader bola uchit "proti bochor je dozen dozen band ber hoy, tader vocalist gula jodi at least gaan shikhe ashto...!!"

and finally, "Amar shopno amder desher musicianra ekta notun genre creat korbe ja shara prithibite amader genre hishabe porichiti pabe. onnora ta follow korbe.".... umm, what happened to LALON GEETI???? hello? Or Nazrul Geeti?? Or Rabindro Shongeet?? Have we already forgottean about these genras of our music???? baki ja ache, shobi to fusion chara aar kichui na!!!


really, im totally confused about what exactly you tried to say in your post.


Hay kopal!! ami ashole eto guchhaya gachhaya likte pari na. gotokal kon voote paisilo, lomba ek post likha falailam. ebong, as expected, tumi amar lekhata onek jaygatei ulta bujhla (mone hoy shobai tai bujhchhey).

Ami classical tasical oto bujhi na. but desh chhaira ashar shomoy ektai boi nisi suitcase e tar nam - Geetobitan. Ar goto 3/4 bochhore jei porimane arnob er gan shunsi tate amake medel dite hobe. Ornob jodi janto or koto na ber houa ganer demo amar kase chhilo ebong ase tahole.... tahole... ki r korto.....mone hoy kichhui korto na.

hmm .... kemne je bujhai. First of all shantiniketon shomporke ami janina. Jani amader desher kotha. keu jodi classical shikhar por nij daitte srishtshilihoy (ebong hochhey o) that is great. kichhu hate gona musician bad dile desher beshir vag musician rai oto ta subcontinental classical ey parodorshi na. ba parodorshi holeo; goto dui doshoke bangla gan er western influeanced part ta jotota develope hoise, muldhara ta ki totota hoise?

Amra western genre khub valo vabe grohon korsi. jeta khub e ashar kotha. ami nijeo shob shomoy band music e kore ashchhi. ebong ei shomoye bangla gan khub e productive era par korchhey bolei amar mone hoy. kintu Robindro, Nazrul, bad dilam shochin dev bormon er moto ki kono artist ekhon pachhi. karon amader moto garage artist ra to ta korte parbe na. Parbbe jader valo deshiyo ebong shonatoni shongeet er upor dokhol achhey tara. amader valo band (or musician) gulo mostly late 60s and 70s/80s er western music icon der dara influeced hoye music korchhey. Ebong tar shathey edanig kichhu deshi instrument or sargum dhukiey Fusion korchhey. Tader onekei khub e valo korchhey.

Kintu koyjon classical trained artist aschhey, jara khub boro maper kichhu kore felsen? karon beshir vag e korar cheshtai koren na.

Amader desher bishishto shongeet biddaloy gulo, jekhaney onekei mone kore Robindro/Nazrul/ucchchango shudhu tader e shompotti shei shob jaygar kotha bolchhilam ami. experience thekei bolchhi, baniye na. Koi kono shonaton shongeet biddaloy e to muolic ganer upor kono kaj ami dekhi na. amra jara pora lekhar line e achhi, undergrad er por e kintu shob kaj amra kori research korar jonney, notun kichhu korar jonney. Ei dharonatai shekhaney nai. ami shetai bolchhiam. Ei dharona tumi jodi introduce korte jao tahole ochchhut hoye jaba.

Ami 100% mone kori je musically trainned hole she onek valo music korte parbe. but ei dharonata onekei moulobadider moto bishshash kore. But music is an art. ja manusher onubutir ekta abstract bohiprokash. Tai mone ebong golay shur thakle, ebong cheshta thakle she valo music korte partei pare (Think about Lalon!). Thik jemon ekjon biggani uchho marger shahitto rochona korte partei paren.

Abar ulta ta boli, music bishoye biddan holei je she valo musician hobei tar kintu kono gurantee nai. ami onek music pondit dekhsi jara 10 second er ekta shur o creat korte pare na. Onek Shakespeare bisheshoggo dekhsi jara dui ongker natok rochona korte parena. Banglay porlei Humayun azad houa jay na (Oboshsho oneke take lekhok e mone kore na). Abar Physics pore o valo lekhok houya jay (Think Jafar Iqbal!)

Ar shopno dekhi je amar jiboddoshay Robindro/Nazrul/Lalon jetai bolo, shei rokom distinct arekta banla ganer genre dekhey jabo. Jeta onnora follow korbe. Jemon 60s/70s e onek icon gutarist ra tader playing e ei desher setar diye influenced hoyechhilo.

Babare....... bishal atlami kahini likha felsi. Asha kori tomar ebong aro keu thakle tader confusion komse.
   
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 2:43 pm
 
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komsey bhaiya. smile razz

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Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 9:20 am
 
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Bangla band music scene in the future? A lot of rock bands making crappy one-good song-albums. All produced by G-Series.

There aren't many good albums which you can really listen from start to finish. Most albums have one or two good songs and the rest are best not heard. Maybe five.. not more. Yes! Include Jhalmuri in that list. AND Neon Aloy Shagotom.

There will be more exposure. Like Arnob in Germany. And maybe on MTV.

Our divas (Anila, Elita etc.) will continue to croon about love lost or love found with their voices digitally mastered. I liked Kranti and Raaga's albums. And I doubt that Fuad and Anila would actually resurrect Kranti or Elita will sing with Raaga again.

And of course, everytime someone will hear the mediocre albums being churned out, they will say "Jotil album hoise". Or "Joss gaan gae". It means DONT LISTEN TO IT.

I don't know why band musicians have to release albums with one or two good songs and the rest of them terrible. yes, there will be exceptions. But that is just that. Exceptions. Even the grand-daddies of band music, LRB and Miles used to release albums with a few good songs and the rest of them should be forgotten.

Fuad Bhai and his likes will stick to the music they keep making. Everytime you hear a tune, you can easily recognise who made it. Whether it is Habib or Fuad or Bassbaba.

Close Up 1?? Someone will experiment with them and try to do something with them. Like Prince when he released some album with all Close Up 1 kids. And one more fiasco with someone like Salma winning the Close Up 1 competition and you know it will go the Indian Idol way: the winner will make one album and vanish.

It could be different though. I did come across a singer in one of the lounges in Dhaka. Her sound was pleasantly different. And there should be many more like her around. But don't bet on an album from such singers. Not until there is a better model of distributing music than that now.
   
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Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 7:54 pm
 
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@uch: lolz, nah, atlamir kichui hoyni. borong clarify korar jonno thanks.

@am36:
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Fuad Bhai and his likes will stick to the music they keep making. Everytime you hear a tune, you can easily recognise who made it. Whether it is Habib or Fuad or Bassbaba.


is it good or bad?

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Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 6:17 am
 
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there will be a problem in future if fuad/habib/bappa are stick with their own style.. now see in future people not gonna like their song.. people will want to get taste of music. in present time, bolly music is changing.. specially, shankar ehsan loy.. is making some music that is compare to international music..also, in few years.. bd people will go back to old style.. they will listen to bolly music again so fuad/habib/bappa... have to cross it over......not only these three.. more musicians are needed

looking for new talent is good.. but it's not good when a new talented singer make an album.. and then disappeared.. so we want those guyz that can give service for a long period of time..
   
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ok i kinda disagree with ppl here... shudhu certain naam bola hochey.. r bar bar bola hochey they do the same kinda music

same kind of music cholle cuz ppl like it. joto din like korbey public. oyta cholbey. nah cholley ppl wont come out with it.

kintu jinishta change hochey. manusher music taste change hochey and variation ashtasey. most of all more talented musicians ashtasey.

james ki international level ey akhon gaan gai nah?
severe dementia ki internationally album release korey nai?

in my view... jokhon ono countryr lok jon kunu bangali singer/band k chinney ebong respect and support dey. i consider them international singers right there.

shudhu bangali audience reach korchey nah.. ono deshi audience o reach korchey. and i only gave a few examples.

arekta jinish... futurey onek poriborton hobey for sure as expected smile

futurey aru record labels dekhtey chai who will release albums on time smile

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